Solar Power, 10 kW Ground Mount
Learn more at www.thesolarvillage.com . Renewable energy in Ontario makes a lot of sense for rural land owners. See how to start getting paid by generating electricity with solar photovoltaic panels in Ontario on the Green Energy Acts MicroFIT program.
legalizeshemp420:
June 15th, 2012 at 4:21 PM
Total bullshit, and I think a way they thought would help kill this, to force more and more percentage of the panels built to be built in Ontario.
randacnam7321:
June 15th, 2012 at 5:18 PM
That money comes from higher electricity bills. Solar electricity is uneconomical on a grid scale as the system costs more than the value of the electricity generated over its life. Subsidizing grid tie PV simply makes others pay for this folly. The future lies in off grid unsubsidized PV, and that is where it was always profitable. The industry bet the farm on green bubble subsidies as a way to gin up forced demand for PV. This bubble bursting is what is killing them.
CanadianSpok:
June 15th, 2012 at 5:22 PM
You see “80.2 cents” and think that’s a scary number but you are comparing today’s hydro rates to the FIT rate which is constant for 20 years. Instead try comparing what hydro will be on average over 20 years and then factor in that the gov doesn’t have to shell out billions in infrastructure to pay for the generating equipment and new hydro lines, the individual investor does and not taxpayers. Get you facts straight it’s a great program.
CanadianSpok:
June 15th, 2012 at 5:32 PM
All of u dumbasses are giving the program a bad wrap only because you don’t understand it fully. Systems don’t cost $90,000 and don’t pay off in 11 years. A 10 kW roof mount will make 12000 kWh per year and costs $45,000 to install. At 80.2 cents/kWh, I don’t see how that equals an 11 year payback even with a 1% drop each year for inefficiency.
CanadianSpok:
June 15th, 2012 at 5:48 PM
well the subsidies are insane in your opinion because you do not fully understand them. The gov would never have implemented this program if it did not make them money.
randacnam7321:
June 15th, 2012 at 6:14 PM
As an example of this, the lowest cost PV modules that I own ran about 10 cents per watt (really). The thing is, each rack for them costs as much as the modules on it. Then factor in a few $100+ MPPT charge controllers, a $450 battery bank, some $80 to $210 inverters, lots of 12V lamps and buttloads of copper wire and you can see how the ancillary equipment costs add up. And this is all for an off grid only system. For a grid tie system it would be much higher.
randacnam7321:
June 15th, 2012 at 6:38 PM
Real grid scale sources of electricity do not get subsidies, and the subsidies you refer to ended decades ago. If anything the government is at war with real sources of energy. And solar is still to expensive to be cost competitive with grid electricity due to all of the auxiliary equipment needed. Even with free PV modules solar costs too much to be economical on a grid scale.
dmonkfunk:
June 15th, 2012 at 6:38 PM
What makes you think other types of electricity are unsubsidized? can you actually say that there is no public dollars ever involved in nuclear or natural gas? Coal? Even companies drilling for oil in the arctic receive subsidies to generate interest for investors. I’ll grant you that it is too high. The first couple of years are, in any industrial development plan. All solar costs are lower now, and headed to a point where they will be comparable to other sources of power.
randacnam7321:
June 15th, 2012 at 6:46 PM
It is only ‘profitable’ because of insane subsidies that rake grid customers over the coals and pay far in excess of the value of the electricity generated. Dump the subsidies and this crap would collapse immediately. Solar is USELESS for grid generation, and the industry should stick to the unsubsidized off grid stuff that actually makes sense. If some redneck like me can build a solar farm (off grid, of course) without Uncle Grubby robbing taxpayers in the process then so can they.
indman101:
June 15th, 2012 at 7:18 PM
I cant see 1,200 a month back in his pocket,Ive got a 3.6kw system and will be lucky if it pays the monthly bill I just installed it back in november,so I have a third of what he has and will be lucky to pay a 90.00 electric bill per month,using 15 sharp panels and Enphase m190 micro inverters,the meter does tick backward but it will only reduce the bill not eliminate it,think about those numbers theres no way he would get that kind of money back.
indman101:
June 15th, 2012 at 7:20 PM
I have a 3.6kw system and I will be lucky to get by without a monthly electric bill,im with Duke Energy here in Indiana and I can only get credit on my account with no checks coming in the mail but I will be lucky to get credits with only having a 3.6kw system,so I do not believe this person is making 1,200.00 a month back in his pocket.
ForTheRepubl1c:
June 15th, 2012 at 7:41 PM
works out to about $937 a month.
who ever said this system will pay for itself in months.
is full of shit
l0veall:
June 15th, 2012 at 8:38 PM
that’s close but at $1,200 a month it is more like $14,400 a year. if you used all of it to pay of your loan you could pay it of in 6.25 years. without paying for electricity. and after that you would be getting $1,200 a month all profit for another good 15 years or more until the need for maintenance.
bryncomeaux:
June 15th, 2012 at 8:44 PM
what if it aint the oil company? Its tooimportant to be suspicious or guessing. Whay do the copmonents cost soooooo much!!! After all its just a miirror folks. A car is more complicatd and cost less. Surly we can point a mirror at a pipe of water for less than 15K a tile.
shitskadoodle:
June 15th, 2012 at 9:04 PM
That’s at 80.2 cents/kWh for power sent to the grid, which is a subsidized price. So it’s not saving money from one’s electrical bill but MAKING money by being paid by the energy authority for sending power to the grid.
Ex: 10kW system may produce 10,000 kWh/year at $0.80/kWh = $8,000/year. That would pay off $90,000 in about 11 years. Give or take.
indman101:
June 15th, 2012 at 9:21 PM
$90,000?pay for it self in 7 or 8 years?what kind of electric bill does this guy have?
Tronman63:
June 15th, 2012 at 9:38 PM
90000 seems high for only 10Kw system.
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